Merel: I have tulips poking up in one of my planters! I ended up planting all of the bulbs in pots. Some I put in the garage and some I've left in the dining room -- which I'm not heating this winter. The ones poking up are in the dining room.
ao
2/25/010 11:40 AM
Perhaps I should have said, "Sexist would imply for most people that being a Dr. somehow makes you superior. The word you are looking for is stereotypical, because it's clearer what you mean. No?"
Or maybe Taod just meant that Dr.s are superior. Who knows?
nto
2/25/010 11:32 AM
No, they show the same thing. You've skipped the definition that didn't agree with you, and selected "related words". That is by no stretch of the imagination "defines as male chauvinist". I did test the thesaurus there, and the lack of non-prejudice synonyms would lend support for your statement related to the noun form, but as I stated, the definition does not, especially since the word was used as an adjective.
You're right about the teacher. Maybe that was so. The usage is an aside though. Your definition is correct and is probably more commonly used, though it remains incorrect to claim the alternative usage is incorrect.
That aside, I've learned that the word sexist is not in many dictionaries. Now then, isn't it sexist to claim male chauvinist is the definition of sexist?
Maybe your chemistry teacher was in an argument because his use of the word sexist was confusing people. Most of the synonyms on thesaurus.com are pretty negative words: bigot, misogynist, chauvinist, prejudiced. If he thought he was saying 'splitting the labs is discriminating by how gender learn', and everyone else thought he was saying 'splitting the labs was being misogynistic', then he might end up in an argument.
taod
2/25/010 11:04 AM
Thanks for the memory nto.
Celebration of Sandy's birthday on Sunday around 6pm at Buffalo Wild Wings. Don't ask me why she chose that restaurant.
And Sandy starts regular 5th grade today...just one class, but it is a start!
esSO
2/25/010 10:55 AM
Sara Schroth had a little baby girl. Aawww! so cute.
nto
2/25/010 10:29 AM
The first (dictionary.com) doesn't define it that way. The second (wordNet) does, but only as the noun, not the adjective, which is not how it was used.
Dictionary.com states:
sexist - pertaining to, involving, or fostering sexism: a sexist remark; sexist advertising.
sexism - attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles
The last (wikitionary) doesn't support your claim. There are two independent statements there, the second of which negates your claim of incorrectness:
sexist - someone who practises sexism
yet one of the definitions it provides for sexism is:
sexism - Promotion or expectation or assumption of people to behave in accordance with or deviate from a gender role.
I distinctly recall my chemistry teacher in high school vehemently arguing it was sexist to divide lab groups into all girls or all boys. I don't agree with your assessment of the word usage, especially based on the sampling of dictionaries.
ao
2/25/010 8:25 AM
The first defines sexist as male chauvinist, and on the model of racist. The second two support my claim because the individual has to discriminate, which I take to mean 'unfair treatment of a person or group on the basis of prejudice'. Perhaps the main conclusion here is that the use of the word 'sexist' is confusing. But given the negative attitude laced with the word 'sexist', I doubt very many people define the word using the benign definition of simple stereotyping.
The first and last both rely on definitions of sexism that don't necessarily include prejudice. That doesn't support your claim. They allow for your definition, but they also allow for the "stereotyping" definition, which you claimed was incorrect.
The middle defines "sexist" as "male chauvinist", which is absurdly narrow, but if you consider that in agreement, that would give you WordNet and MSN Encarta. Beyond those two, I can not find a source that supports your claim.
As for the AHA, I doubt any of their employees put those titles into the web page. It is quite possible a sexist person put the titles in, and the titles remain there due to ignorance.
ao
2/24/010 8:42 PM
Yeah, the second two support my claim. And the first definition goes on to explain the origin of the word to be on the model of racist. Related word: male chauvinist. But back to my initial point, I can't honestly believe that anyone at the AHA would think that no women should be a Dr. Their website error only signals their belief that there aren't a lot of female Dr.s. Kudos to you, Taod, for proving them wrong.
nto
2/24/010 5:20 PM
I'm going to have to ask what dictionary you're relying on at this point. Most I search redirect the page to sexism (google web definitions, wikipedia, merriam-webster).
dictionary.com:
- pertaining to, involving, or fostering sexism
princeton's WordNet:
- discriminatory on the basis of sex
wiktionary.org:
- A person who discriminates on grounds of sex; someone who practises sexism
Only MSN Encarta seems to share your definition.
ao
2/24/010 4:45 PM
Touche. But she used the word sexist, which only incorporates the first definition of sexism.
nto
2/24/010 4:43 PM
Sexism has more than one definition, one of which doesn't imply superiority.
1 : prejudice or discrimination based on sex; especially : discrimination against women
2 : behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex
ao
2/24/010 3:55 PM
Sexist would imply that being a Dr. somehow makes you superior. The word you are looking for is stereotypical. No?
taod
2/24/010 1:51 PM
That's a little sexist....AHA Jump Rope website choices for titles includes Dr. & Mrs., but not Dr. & Mr.
esSo
2/24/010 7:31 AM
RBO, sorry I missed your phone call. We can talk tonight
Week old pictures
2/23/010 10:43 PM
V
2/23/010 4:39 PM
I think that you have 2 dishwashers that you named Frank and Sandy...
LTYSAO - Tracy: 16 hours, though this is really going to suck when Nathaniel leaves in March.
Lauren, I was snowboarding...I even went down the south bowl.
ao
2/21/010 11:52 AM
A singles mixer would include both males and females, not just guys who are kinda male and strongly male. Mixed conclusion would benefit the ABA, because it would mean no strong link had been found and repeatedly found.
One other major problem with the study is that the data is self-reported. People who have pancreatic cancer are probably more accurate at reporting the number of sodas drank better than people who do not have pancreatic cancer.
Regardless of the article's poor word choice and the study's lack of observations, I still don't drink soda. It gives me gas.
erico
2/21/010 9:57 AM
proud parenting moment from yesterday: We dump the big tub of legos onto the floor, start rummaging through them to build a rocket or pool or helicopter and Payton says: "Dad, you find and I'll build"
nto
2/21/010 2:34 AM
I'm not sure that's how the American Beverage Association uses the term "mixed conclusions".
Likewise, there are "mixed ideas" on evolution, and "mixed results" on the dangers of smoking.
erico
2/21/010 1:27 AM
LTYSAO (last time you've seen an ohler)
Eric: 8 days.
ao
2/20/010 11:13 PM
Mixed means some found no correlation, some found a negative correlation, some found a positive.
Given the statistical work, I'll buy the sugars study and believe the theory of an additional link with soda, but the soda study uses too small of number to provide evidence of anything. It doesn't strengthen anything when you use bad data.
nto
2/20/010 6:56 PM
Well, obviously it is corroborating everything in the "mixed conclusions" that lies on the "causes pancreatic cancer" side.
But what does mixed conclusions mean? Some found it heavily correlated and others found it lightly correlated? Or is there just one study that opposes all the others?
:Pereira points out that the findings are biologically plausible, held up in non-smokers, remained similar after taking other dietary habits into account and are consistent with findings in Caucasian populations.
:Even though the new study has limitations, the findings do echo those of previous studies, says Laurence N. Kolonel, MD, PhD, a researcher at the Cancer Research Center and professor of public health at the University of Hawaii, Honolulu. With his colleagues, he evaluated the association between added sugars in the diet and pancreatic cancer risk, publishing the findings in 2007. “In our study, we found a positive association between high intake of fructose and pancreatic cancer,” he tells WebMD. “Since high-fructose corn syrup is the main sweetener in non-diet soft drinks, our findings and those of the present study are quite consistent.”
ao
2/20/010 6:07 PM
"Previous studies have produced mixed conclusions about whether consumption of soft drinks boosts the risk of pancreatic cancer." Not sure what is it corroborating?
nto
2/20/010 5:28 PM
but did you look at the previous studies it corroborated?
And I just got back from assisting disabled individuals ski.